Although this combo may not be the easiest if you want to finish a race.
LX4 on South City Chicane route is complicated enough all by yourself to wreck the car!
Make sure you try a few laps offline before you join.
DMR server is a very good place to go for clean and fair races, and populated enough in Europe evenings. Keep up the good work!

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Stats are good

+1

-1
Please do not create a tool that reminds us all that we have no life...

BF1 is way too fast and scary for me to drive

I also find a recurrent issue in BF1 pickup races, this is the wide range of skills.
At least when i'm not fast in a slow car I can still see the leaders and race mid pack after a few laps. In the fastest cars the fast drivers are long gone and the rest is spinning around, no close racing involved there.
I want battles, overtaking attempts, defending opportunities during a race and I do not have the skill / practice to achieve that at higher speeds.

This ideal line (press 4) does no more change, but it is different for all the combos.
Just check your data\knw folder and you will understand the difference:
the .trs file is the "rubber" overlay and is updated according to your in game options while the .knw files are the AI paths, not updated dynamically.

In patch X the .knw files were updated after each AI race to simulate AI learning (but AIs were much slower and also were "learning" wrong lines, and forgetting fuel, tyres...)

Thanks (again)!
Time to (re)work my sets it seems

Damn how did I miss this wonderful thread?

The number of racers online may not increase but for sure the level of debates in there reaches unexplored abysmal peaks

Thanks to all who participated and entertained me for some time.
My special thanks to Jtbo, Shotglass and Polyracer for under the belt wicked blows that made me smile. Keep up the good work!

Hi Scawen,

Thank you for the fantastic idea to regroup the communities (and making wrecking a bit harder).
No big issues so far (apart from my GFX card not being able to cope with AA...) and racing on demo-welcoming servers was great (although I doubt wreckers spend time reading the forums and discovering test patches).
I note a 5-10 FPS drop on BL1 using the same graphic settings as patch Y - No AA, AF 16x, nothing high res.
I've been playing with the MIP bias sliders - I don't think these affect FPS?

And thumbs up for hidind this revolution until Y18 - what a surprise!

Quote from felplacerad :

Yes,

0 = no filter
1 = filters chat
2 = filters chat and system messages (like "x left the pits" etc.)

Nah...
That was the smart solution.
Here is mine (mechanical engineer )
Go to the data\sound folder
rename message.waw and sysmessage.waw to .old or whatever you want and enjoy the silent chatter

Thanks for the summary Nihil, I was depressed after reading the first part of the thread and not finding interesting argumentation.
I wonder if there is a way to rate / highlight good posts so that we can hide the garbage rest?

well...
talk about a depressing thread!
turning 35 this year, but my kids keep me young in the head.
We above 30 are not playing, we are racing anyways. When we dare to admit it at all.

Go for it! you can do it.
Install paint.net on you comp (Free!) - it is not too difficult to learn the basics of this software. Note that you should have the .net framework installed.

Find the addin to be able to use photoshop files (.psd files)
This way you can use layers and import photoshop templates.

Go to Master Skinnez website and download the wonderful templates in there.

Off you go

Quote from Christopher Raemisch :

...Or did they do exactly as you all are trying to insinuate, that they sat on the thumbs for ten years then decided to say.... "Ohh by the way there are too many cars on the road" I highly doubt that actually happened and there was an in depth report on how to exactly deal with the problem instead of just stating the obvious that anyone driving a car can see...

Only one way to know...
Wait 10 more years


























Nearly there!




















OK.
this was close to 10 years I guess.
Now if the same scientist states in that there are too many cars because there are too many human beings around you know he's been doing something for the last 20 years. Dont' worry he will find an appropriate solution for that as well

y



damn.
typo.

Dead Men Racing is an interesting place!
Go try it for a change

They run a combo (more or less random, so you can have FZR on AS historic 1 week and XFG chicane route the following week) for 1 week.
Usually 10 lap races with pitstop, and qualifications.
They welcome you on the server with friendly messages,
congratulate you for a new PeeBee!,
say sorry when they think they should,
congratulate you for a pass instead of ramming you at the next turn,
are so polite that I remained stuck after an accident - nobody would start first, messages like "after you" "no you go"... flying

They are even so polite that they let visitors win

This thread was doomed, but interesting to read (the first bit anyways)

@ shotglass comment, regarding Germans being entitled to answer: Shotglass only can express his intentions but it seems to me that this kind of oversenstive topics always bring the darkest side of posters and attract biased, cheap interventions.

Being from Germany and commenting Israel will likely get one to be reminded of the nation's history during this heated posting exchange.
If I were from Germany I would probably use the same caution, and I think that some who are not from Germany could try it for a change.

/OT...
Kids are in fact girls and too young for karting, although I try to have them spectate a little bit of LFS from time to time to get future allies / don't tell anybody it's cunning (very) long term plan to get a wheel.

/more OT...
I have no space at home to store one more handbag, any other suggestion?

Quote from Bob Smith :

It's all marketing. You can only wait and see for yourself. Just read this if you want a good laugh at people exaggerate about racing games (because of course, just the other day we had a new 16TB server installed, purely for photos... :really, and yet remain clueless as to which games are realistic or even what makes a car game realisitic.

THAT made me laugh... too bad I'm supposed to be working at the moment! thanks

Sorry, no karting for me!
My wife and 2 kids would probably not like it very much, as it is already hard to launch LFS (using laptop and mouse of course, because anything more obvious is banned from home for the sake of peace and serenity plus it would get even more adictive with proper hardware...)
Maybe in a few years time...
Good luck though.

18:30 UTC a bit early for me, I must make sure the kids are asleep in bed before I start racing if I want to complete a race! I'm usually lucky when I can get online for the last race...
My suggestions / remarks:
Reintroduction of the LRF class on CTRA race 2 has spread the already thin audience for this event.
Maybe attracting new blood would work? If one of you fast guys (not me obviously) could post a good base setup for the oncoming event it may attract newbies who could be trained into competitors (and I would get some opponents to fight a few decades off pace )

Quote from Karoti :

For me, I would like to see the ability to 'set' the level of each AI driver in the Options, i.e. set some as Pro some as Quick etc. to spread the field out more realistically.

No problem to achieve something similar:
Add handicap (ballast / restriction) to a setup, save is as AI 1..20 and create an AI grid assigning these setups (you must have the AI use player setup option enabled).
The you can save your AI grid and use over and over.
The creation is not straightforward and I admitt it is a workaround due to incomplete AI setting options, but it works.

By the way, Ikaponthus, I never said the AIs could pass, I wrote that they did attempt to overtake
If you mix the field too much you get a carnage - this is the same with human players, so if you base your remarks on AI overtaking abilities on an experiment with UF1s / BF1s field no wonder you get crashes!

May I suggest that you did not search in the correct forum sections?

A lot of the AI discussions regarding the current state of developement happened during the last testpatch series, please do look in this testpatch subforum as it is now available due to the translation testing in progress.

Basically, we got the following improvements:
Faster AIs overall (maybe not on a hotlap but try a >10min race, or even some of the overtaking lessons in the offline training)
AIs performance according to level (normal, pro, quick and whatever) well staged
AIs take in account tyre temp and damage, can pit and do it when necessary
AIs attempt to overtake

We lost:
AIs do not learn any more (no updated .knw files)
AIs apparently behave all similarly (there used to be AIs more aggressive than others in previous patches)

So it was a major improvement overall, and it is not over - see the thread in the test patch forum and read Scawen's posts for more information.

Feel free to correct / complete my statements!

Ah! Now that you point at it, it is clear to me as well.
I thought my mind was overworked on my english too limited at first because I did not get the meaning of this rant.
love you too.

or, to make it look dafter: unrealistic vehicle dynamics would mean no Sumo?

Cheese cookie anyone?

/ashamed but posting for other beginners to feel better

2.36.xx on my 3rd lap... Did not finish the first 2 laps

Disclaimer: at work, windowed, no sound, mouse steer, first time on this track, forgot about the 4 thingy. I know, still not a very good time.

/goes hiding in a shed in the garden